In order to gear a party for Fortress Lord's and beyond roughly how much of a commitment am I looking at.
My initial estimate from the moment I step into Bastion to the step out of Lost Vale with at least 3 pieces of Darkpromise I was thinking roughly: 50 hours.
Obviously those guilds that go in first will be looking at a much longer commitment (200-300 hours) as they learn the fights - but assuming I enter some time this week do you think 50 hours is being too conservative?
I run a predmoniately PvP orientated guild and the thought of having to do PvE makes me cry - but unfortunately it is a necessity for this game so just want to be able to give my members a decent idea of how much PvE they are roughly looking at.
To help with estimate - we have an alliance guild who is heavily PvE orientated and already past the first bosses in Lost Vale so we will have all the information we need in regards to bosses.
I assumed the PvE set gear did nothing for RvR Fortress lord fights.
Even then... on Dark Crag we had no problem with the Fortress lord and many people had 0 wards, we just overran him then the server crashed.
If your going to gear, get the PvP set gear from Keeps.
PvP and PvE gear is all equivelent
Bloodlord = Annhilator (RR 30s) Lesser ward protects you in Level 40 Dungeons
Sentinal = Conquerer (RR 40s) Greater ward protects you in Lost Vale and Fortress
Darkpromise = Invader (RR 50s) Superior ward protects you in City Siege
There is more sets, but pointless to worry about them right now...will be much later down the road..
You guys are aware that PvE is your only option?
To think you can gear yourself adequately for Fortress Raids through PvP is laughable.
well i have dont like 25 runs of Bastion (left and right bosses) wich took roughly 25 hours and i have still to get my first Bloodlord set item, Might be because i'm a chosen since things like shaman drops practicly always sorc and zealot drops frequent but BO is a lot lower and i well chosen wont drop for me.
Havent been able to do the other instances yet (because of no bloodlord/annialator so no lesser ward) but i dont think the droprate gets any better so i would put your goal up to atleast 100 hours and that is when you are lucky.
I would say it took me about 8 crypts runs and about 12 warpblade runs to get my full sentinel set. Thats about on average 2hours per run. Mind you that's an average, once your tanks have 3-4 set items it is much faster. Our last run in crypts was 48 minutes to clear it with both tanks having 5/6 sent. We both got out chest piece that run so we are both 6/6 now. I would say count on atleast 100 hours to get you full darkpromise set if you are just now starting the BS/WB/cypts(or destro equivalent).
On a side note - am I being a big girl or do I have the right to a little here?
In order to contribute meaningfully in this %26quot;RvR%26quot; game I MUST spend 100+ hours doing PvE instances.
I would be fine if it took 4 times as long to do it through RvR/PvP measures but we do not even have the option of that - its basically do PvE or delete.
No offence - but please learn how gear works.
If you can show me how to get Darkpromise equivalent gear through PvP I would love to hear it.
If I could convince an Order guild to swap T4 keeps with me all day then maybe - but even then that would be a Grade or two behind Darkpromise.
Every guild on the server can be at LOST vale.
As far as scion goes there are 4 other guilds that would be on par - heck i could take a group of zhents into lost vale now if i wasnt working , but does that make us be able to do it ?
I have seen scions gear , they are far from clearing lost vale.
That aside bastion does not take long , nor do the city dungeons.
You will find a few guilds on anlec have been hammering through those dungeons when the timers havent been up , for a little while now.
Problem is , you can take only 6 people into bosses , i have been finding loot is dropping for classes not there , or gear that players have and do not need.
bastion bosses - 24 hr lockout
City dungeon bosses - 48 hr lock ( could be 3 days , we usually do 1 or 2 times a week ) not 100% sure of those times.
Lost vale bosses - assume longer lockout timers , to slow progression down.
If you need any input feel free to come into ZK vent , i will give you a quick run down.
You have to pvp for it and get your renown rank way up. Invader set is the equivalent of Darkpromise. The first piece can be bought at the city renown vendor and worn when you have a renown rank of 56. The other pieces you will need to start taking fortress for.
You are the one who said you wouldn't mind pvping for the gear even if it took longer. Well get your renown rank up and start taking fortresses.
Thanks Cylak I will be in touch soon.
Scippio - be realistic - to gear up the 30 or so people required for the King Raid it is not feasible to do this through Fortress raids.